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This has real demand, I ended up in the Gitlab secondary youtube channel one day, ordering by most views, and I found a video [0] of a seemingly normal uninteresting meeting with millions of views. Turns out people were using this as an excuse for looking like they were busy. They disabled comments now but I saved some of them because I thought it was hilarious:

I play this when I need my family to leave me alone - so helpful 4.5K I play this when I pretend to be busy. This meeting is literally about anything you want it to be about lol 1.5K I love that we all arrived at this video for the same reason 2.6K Every now and then I'll pause it at a good point in between them talking to make my own voice heard contributing to the "meeting" lol. Gets the full effect in! And the beautiful thing is their conversation just flows with it like they heard me lol. 562

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBVtvOpU80Q

For people without adblocker the trick will be ruined at some point by something like loud enthusiastic ClickUp ad.
I was one of those people skeptical that ad-free YouTube was worth the high price, but now firmly a convert.

Get it! The best deal in streaming content. Unlocks such a better experience you’ll find a dozen whole new areas of valuable & enjoyable content to explore.

Why not just block ads?
At some point, paying for something and knowing it will work is worth it. In particular, ad blocking YouTube on mobile is frustrating.
bluGill
If you can. A lot of subscription TV channels have ads even though you have to pay to get them. Does paying for youtube block all ads, and if so will it continue to, or will they change as so many others have and just make your payment remove some ads? I'm not even counting sponsored content in a lot of videos as ads, but they are annoying too.
If you are a YouTube Premium subscriber you actually do get a button that skips in-video sponsor ads.
Not getting sucked into YouTube on mobile is a feature, not a bug
NewPipe is the way to do that on android...
Yup. Astounding how many tech people just fork over money to an evil company instead though.
Smarttube on Android TV's works exceptionally well, too. I've seen people recommend Tizentube over it because it's nearly indistinguishable from the standard YouTube app, but with adblocking--but I actually prefer the more minimalist UI of Smarttube.
is there something for IOS?
They could raise the price or start having ads even if you pay. You're a renter. You have no rights.
Had they done that from day 1 you woulf have a point but it sounds like extorsion to me given youtube got rid of most of its competition and established its casi monopolistic position being adfree.
nlarew
That is not what extortion means
I've been using YT on my FF mobile browser with an ad block and it's been working great.
I don't block ads because stealing ad revenue from companies is unethical. These companies have workers who have families that they need to feed. They provide a service for free, so it's the least I can do. I watch every ad in full.

My cousin, however, stopped blocking ads on YouTube when the YouTube warnings showed up. She is scared that at some point Google would ban Gmail accounts for doing it, and she's had hers for 10 years and really relies on it. She also says YouTube videos are really easy to download so anything she really wants from YouTube she tends to have a local copy of.

ArvidSu
Corporate psy-op
maxbond
The mafia is also made of hard working people with families to feed. Sometimes industries deserve to die. Even if the people working in them don't deserve to lose their jobs. That's life in a free market.
There's nothing more "free market" than ads. Ads literally cost you no money (free), and you don't even have to buy the product they're advertising (freedom from market if desired). If I know I'm not going to buy the product in question, I use the time to meditate, or take a moment to enjoy a cool, crisp sip of Kool-Aid. It's delicious when prepared according to the instructions. Oh Yeah!
You're right, I didn't think about the thousands left destitute by them using UBlock Origin to play a fake meeting video
It isn’t unethical to block ads; the norm on the internet has always been that senders send any not-actively-malicious bits we want and the recipient renders them however they want (including not).

That said I’m also worried about getting banned for blocking too many YouTube ads (Google doesn’t have any obligation to send me emails after all) so I… just don’t go there.

Because with google it's an unwinnable arms race.
Or, you know, you could just pay for a service that you enjoy. I watch a lot more YouTube and see a bigger need to keep it alive than Netflix, HBO and co for which I am paying good money already, why should YouTube be exempt from that? Also if Netflix goes away tomorrow, you’ll find their content on torrents easily, but if YouTube goes away, we will lose decades of videos that no one has backups of. Expecting them to offer this service for free and without ads is crazy.
phoghed
1. YouTube is my primary entertainment so I don’t mind paying for it in lieu of Netflix or Hulu or whatever

2. I like that it directly benefits the creators of the videos I watch

3. It gets everyone in my family ad free viewing for 0 effort across all devices (I primarily watch it from Apple TV app)

4. Gives you higher quality bitrate option sometimes

5. It gives me the moral and logical high ground when arguing with nerds about YouTube online

6. Can download video on most (all?) devices, comes in handy sometimes, but I don’t use it frequently

Barbing
One of the best products ever created, and they deserve the dough for serving me all the gigabytes. Fast, reliable, and one product not headed for KilledByGoogle. (Did I jinx it? “We’re transitioning to a vertical-video only platform to meet our billion users where they are…”)
splintersio OP
I’ll disable ads! Apologies :)
ruszki
Why don't you just decline calls with text messages, or just ignore them, or simply mute your phone?
People take offense.
So?
seb1204
You would not know as you declined?
> People take offense.

Sounds like something people low on the corporate ladder say

Yes. These tools are for them. If you're high on the ladder you can play Solitaire openly.
flurdy
You try ignoring when the family helpdesk is called. You never hear the end of it.
Are they monetizing it? If not they are missing out!
At a past firm I managed a team of SREs.

This was very much a "fire drill all the time" kind of place (vs "slow and steady"). The team came to me and said:

"Alex, we keep getting bombarded by meeting requests and have no focus time."

My solution was to create a weekly "team meeting" from 8am to 11am every Friday and invite all of them to it.

They loved it!

I mentioned to them that making a meeting like this was something they could have done themselves but they responded:

"It carries more weight coming from you. Plus, if someone tries to schedule over it, they are more likely to think twice and/or I can say 'Hey, you have to talk to Alex.' "

filcuk
The scripts are hilarious, yet not inaccurate. I can't stop chuckling. 'Are you happy with that?' 'Happy is a strong word' 'OK' moves on to the next topic
Reminds me of the "boss mode" / "boss key" in old games, like MS-DOS days, which would switch the screen to some spreadsheet mockup or suchlike, updated for the current century.
jnovek
This was tickling something in my brain and this was it! Thank you.
karim79
I think Sierra games like Leisure Suit Larry had that (F11) if I recall correctly. Priceless.
flurdy
https://hackertyper.com/ and others. Full screen code stream
Do people in offices typically just blast meetings out of their computer speakers? Everyone I work with uses headphones so we're not disturbing other people in the office...
p_l
Unless you have good ANC headphones, or find something like pink noise that fits you, you're still dealing with all the talking to microphone of your colleagues.
voidUpdate OC
I have reasonably good headphones and nice music
It's less noisy when you hear 5 people talk in 5 meetings than when you hear 50 people talk in those 5 remote meetings.
It's hard to describe how difficult it is to hear someone talking and then a second later hear then in your headphones. It really breaks my concentration. And it's a solvable technology problem - just use the local network for people in the same subnet. But every meeting provider wants _everything_ routed through their servers. There's no escaping they prying eyes.
Audio seems broken now, maybe hugged to death. Console:

  HTTP load failed with status 404. Load of media resource https://iminafleeting.com/media/people/standup-a.mp4 failed
jmuguy
There's a few that don't work, I was able to get the some of the "scoping" meetings to play the audio.
Truly uncanny!

Only the British audio works for me, though - if I try American or International, the relevant meetings are silent with a "Join Audio" button which doesn't appear to do anything. (Firefox on MacOS, if that's useful)

fliglr
Same here - Brave browser. Only British works
Same, console says something about missing or "unsuitable" audio resources.

Sad, I wanted the international broken Zoom call

flurdy
Yeah we need a dial to mix accents and dialects, and level of English fluency. I could want 50% English, maybe some Northern English, Welsh or Scottish, and mix in Indian accents, various American, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish, Scandinavian, the odd token Aussie. Etc.

That I could enable more South African, or Middle East accents in some meetings would be true to real life as well.

Not Finnish. The silence would not work :)

We need a fake teams / zoom UI with faces talking. You know, for those working in open plan.
ghusto
If you can't tell people you want to concentrate on your work, there's either something very wrong with where you work, or you.
You must be a hoot at parties
Loughla
This is not making me feel good about the real meetings I'm regularly in.